m2193 Send Message

2005 Wistaria Taihe Maocha
Sample purchased from LiquidProust
6.7g, 100mL gaiwan, mix of Brita/Poland spring bottled water

Dry leaf has a smell I can’t really describe, sort of old and leathery but not musty. Not a very strong smell.

15s rinse that smells lightly BBQ-smoke like

Wet leaves have a sharp sour (somewhat BBQ sauce like, but more sour) and very slight minty smell. Sort of a dark army/camo green color; would’ve expected darker. Leaves are large, but not as long as the 2006 which made placing into gaiwan a lot easier. Didn’t bother trying to stuff either one into shuiping.

5s: wet leaves now have a smoky note, but also smells sweeter, in the vein of BBQ sauce. Taste is something akin to if a really light BBQ sauce had a medicinal edge. Aftertaste is crisp and lightly sweet.

7s: woody with a slight medicinal bitterness. Sweet aftertaste, not as crisp. Overall mouthfeel softer and not astringent like before

10s: similar, though less bitter. Some other note that I can’t quite identify, but seems to be from storage rather than naturally inherent

15s: woody bitter, slightly medicinal with some sort of cherry note. Slightly astringent, slight sweet aftertaste. Some warming.

18s: less bitter, darker fruity notes, slightly crisp. Slightly plummy in the vein of late steeps of aged oolongs. Slight sweet aftertaste. Warming in face

20s: was really hungry so had a blueberry yogurt that was really sweet so I couldn’t taste anything in this cup…

25s: kinda bland in the vein of rather tasteless apple skin or something. Very slight drying and aftertaste

45s: slight bitterness. Slight woody (in a papery light sort of way), light fruitiness and drying. Slight warming, but otherwise suspect this will probably only last a couple more steeps…

1 min: a tangy sort of fruity note, very slightly drying. Nothing too exciting

3 min: very slightly plummy, but mostly bitter.

15 min: very bitter, fairly astringent, somewhat fruity and slight plummy. off to the thermos.

I know my notes seem lukewarm but these are from a couple weeks ago, and for some reason I remember liking this tea overall. I liked it much more than the ‘06 since the storage taste was lighter on this one and the plummy note was nice, but I might cake the ’06 just because it’s 2000 NTD cheaper at present and gamble on letting the weird notes air out. Alas.

2004 Zi-yin (Nannuo) Maocha
Wistaria Tea House
Sample purchased from Liquid Proust Teas

On an unrelated note, the pinyin for this tea’s name is Zi yun (from 紫蕴, no idea what it means), but Wistaria themselves lists as Zi yin so probably a typo

6.6g, 100 mL gaiwan, 212f, mix of Brita/complex syrup/Poland spring bottled water

Dry leaf smells dark, but not musty. Something sort of sour

17s rinse

Wet leaf is a minty light smoke that also has tinge of both sweet and sour note

Leaf is a mix of colors, lighter in color than I expected

5s: light fruity taste w slight bitterness. Also a weird rubbery note, though slight. Sweet aftertaste and slight drying

10s: a stronger bitter note, like something burnt.

15s: similar fruity bitter. Slight focusing, calming

16s: darker fruity bitter profile. Astringent, light sweetness

18s: bitter smoky note with fruity edges. Sugared, crisp aftertaste 15s: bitter fruity. Slight sweetness lingers in aftertaste

15s: bitter fruity. Slight sweetness lingers in aftertaste

18s: rubbery note amidst bitter fruity.

35s: similar, less fruity. Slight astringency

1 min: stronger than before, but similar taste. LP mentioned a wet stone storage note, and I can see why, though I would probably be more inclined to call it an off sort of rubbery note. A light bitter aftertaste, slightly bright. Feeling a little bit zoned out.

1 min: much lightened in both bitterness and the same wet stone/rubber note

2 min: a mostly hollowed out bitter taste

5 min. 20s: similar, w/ slight fruity edge. Will thermos

Overall: slight warming, a bit zoned out feeling. Initially sweeter before turning towards a more bitter profile. Not too medicinal on this one. Not a favorite profile-wise, probably wouldn’t repurchase. Thermos brew had a slight plummy note.

2007 YQH Xishi Shenpin
7.0g, 100 mL gaiwan, boiling, complex syrup water

Dry leaf has a dark mushroomy smell

17s rinse

Wet leaf has taken on a minty herbal hint as well

7s: soft and minty, with a brothy aspect. Slight sweet aftertaste.

9s: wet leaf has a slight incense like aspect. Muted bitter taste. Slight warming, relaxing

15s: still a muted woody base. Similar slight warming and relaxing. Slight sweet, crisp aftertaste

23s: slight medicinal bitter with a mushroom hint. Sweet aftertaste, slight numbing in mouth, slight warming mostly in back and back of neck. Slightly drowsy

32s: medicinal bitterness. Slight sweet aftertaste. Relaxation and warming

20s: soft and rounded woody taste, with a slight sour medicinal note. Slight sweet aftertaste.

30s: comforting medicinal profile. Slight sweet aftertaste but fades almost immediately

45s: a sour, slightly bitter medicinal

30s: a bittersweet mushroom

1 min: slight bitter, herbal, medicinal

2 min: much stronger bitter than before. A coating bitterness lingers in aftertaste. Slight warming.

2 min.: bitter mostly receded. A sort of hollowed mushroomy taste. Slight warming.

3 min: slightly bittersweet.

5 min: not too much taste

20 min.: a tart, almost bitter and bright fruity. Will thermos the remainder.

Overall: This particular tea made me feel too tired to complete work but also too caffeinated to fall asleep. Thus, this was probably the wrong choice when I was supposed to be diligently preparing for exams, leading to overall none too pleasant connotations when I struggled on my primary midterm this morning. Shh, let me scapegoat this tea in peace. Was interesting to try, but didn’t quite command the current $/g ($2/g) for me. The cake price is especially hard to argue for when you can get similarly interesting offerings from Yang for half the price or lower (though apparently YQH has had erratic price shifts somewhat recently). I’m not sure if I would’ve caked prior to price increase, but I certainly would not with the current pricing.

2006 YQH Tianpin

7.1g, 100 mL gaiwan, 212f, complex syrup water

Dry leaf has a dark aged herbal mushroomy smell

17s rinse

Wet leaf smells of slight mint and dark fruity notes

8s: tart, fruity aspect, and a slight brothy aspect with slight medicinal bitterness. Heating and relaxing. Sweet light fruity juicy (almost pineapple like) aftertaste.

10s: more medicinal bitter with sweet aftertaste. Slight cooling in mouth.

12s: a spiced medicinal. Slight drying. Sweet aftertaste that moves slightly to throat.

18s: lighter than before, with a slight mint edged sweet aftertaste

25s: similar

45s: darker and stronger. Astringent. But overall nice. Seems like this might need to be pushed on steep timing either from the tea or the water (TDS was 75 when measured)

1 min.: general herbal medicinal profile. Complex syrup water probably at play, but light sweet aftertaste is lasting and pleasant.

1 min.: general aged mushroomy herbal taste

2 min.: stronger bitterness, slight astringency and itchy throat

3 min.: something like a stray cherry skin note amidst water. Not much taste otherwise.

5 min.: soft woody base. Will thermos remainder

Overall: seemed to be lacking in much qi for me. Not the most exciting tea to begin with, and a rather poor value proposition when $/g ($1.60 at time of writing) is taken into consideration.

2006 Wistaria Taihe Maocha
Purchased from LiquidProustTeas
6.0g, 100 mL gaiwan, boiling, mix of Brita/Poland Spring
The leaves are super long lol

these 6g of dry leaves were stored with my other samples so seems to have taken on the same fruity smell

17s rinse, cloudy

Wet leaf smells dark, smoky with a sweet tinge, and brothy (someone mentioned umami broth and I know exactly what they mean). Someone also mentioned burnt tires/rubber and I get that slightly as well. not sure what’s up with Wistaria storage on these, since I can’t imagine these being inherently present…

5s: dark, and slightly medicinal fruity, with good texture. Crisp, with a slightly charred edge, but leaves a pleasant cooling savory sweetness on tongue and around mouth.
Warming in upper back

10s: gaiwan lid definitely smells like leather and burnt rubber. But the leaves smell of dried fruits and the brothy umami. Good texture, but lacking in much taste except medicinal overall and slight bitterness in the ending. Only a fleeting aftertaste of savory fruitiness.

17s: a sweeter medicinal, something almost citrus like. Drying that turns into a sweet aftertaste.

20s: dark, bitter medicinal. Also very drying with light sugar and burnt rubber like aftertaste. Definitely one of the odder teas I’ve tried

15s: Just a light bitter-tinged medicinal water. Drying.

30s: medicinal citrus tinged slight bitterness. Drying still, with the weird rubber umami like slight aftertaste.

45s: slightly bitter. Astringent

1 min: similar, though with a fruity edge.

2 min.: odd rubbery taste still

3 min: similar, though more medicinal

5 min: wet leaves and gaiwan lid smell like furniture. A mushroom-like note

10 min: medicinal bitter w/ citrus -like tang. sweet edge, much less drying than before
thermos’d the rest.

Would’ve expected a qi heavy hitter for this one based on reviews, but this was pretty light on body effects (slight warming) for me. Not sure what’s up.

Thanks to Obritten for the sample!

2015 Biyunhao 500 Year Yibi Gushu
7.7g, 212f, 80mL shuiping, Poland Spring water
Dry leaves smell of fruit and has a fair amount of stems mixed in.

20s rinse: accidentally let it go for too long since dry leaves were too long to fit neatly into pot

Wet leaf smells sweet, vegetal, and herbal

12s: light LME-like crushed pill bitterness (inherent or from my shaky brewing…who knows?) initially that resolves into a sweetness with a minty edge that settles in the upper throat. Slight candied floral undertones.

12s: lighter bitterness, more fruity and rounded, with crisp sugared edges. Warming in lower back, slight frissons. Starting to sweat a little. Pleasant crisp sweet exhale, although slightly astringent.

12s: still the crushed pill bitterness initially, though far less than before. Slight sweetness on exhale, but like before, still astringent. Continued warming, though lighter.

20s: strong and crisp sugar, less bitterness and astringency. Probably burned off most of the florals, but they’re more noticeable here than before. Exhale is sort of medicinal, with an herbal edge. Calming. Aftertaste has not been too present for this tea, but once the drying feeling fades, there’s a feeling of sweetness.

26s: kind of like crisp water. Not sure how many more steeps this will last.

30s: same sort of slightly bitter water

5 min.: very bitter. Borderline LME lol. Will thermos the rest

overall: seems to have faded rather quickly? can’t remember much else about it other than what my notes on it mentioned above

2004 CNNP (?) 8582
Yee-on Tea
7.4g, 100mL gaiwan, Brita filtered tap, boiling
This came as a free sample with my order from Yee-on. Like everyone else, I also received a sample with a fair amount of white frost lol. I would’ve waited for it to rest, and rehydrated
or whatever, but I didn’t want any chance of having anything spread to my other samples so I let it sit a few days with the bag open to air out and brewed today, so we’ll see if
that’s affected anything.

Dry leaf smelled strongly of basement storage when I got it but the dryness/low RH here seems to have taken it out. Not much dry leaf aroma left
2x 15s rinse, with 1 min. wait in btwn
Wet leaf has a woody camphorous (maybe?) aroma. Slight spice and pepper in a cooling way
10s: lightly woody and grainy (in a way reminiscent of glutinous rice) with slight sweet undertones. Something about it feels sticky, though texture is not thickened too much
(though given my water source, good texture is rather rare and most teas turn out pretty thin)
12s: similar but sweeter. Very easy drinking
20s: smelled the wet leaves. Yee-on notes dates in the aroma and I’m inclined to agree, though again this is something I wouldn’t have necessarily picked up on myself.
It’s somewhat subtle, mixed in with the woodier base, but definitely present. Taste is basically same as before, sort of muted, but comforting.
2x 30s, 35s, 45s, 1 min., 1 min. 30s, 2 min., 3 min., 4 min., 5
min., 10 min.: woody medicinal and dates. Dates is no longer subtle like before. I’d probably have eventually picked up on it, or so I tell myself. Still the grainy glutinous rice taste as well. Very comforting. HK storage seems to have tamped it into something that’s not changing much from steep to steep (woodiness fades into background more and more as date-tinged sweetness comes forth), but is very easy drinking. Moved to thermos after lightening.
Overall: Not sure on qi. Maybe slight calming? Probably not something that will knock your socks off with excitement, but comforting in that old friend, hug in a mug sort of way. I enjoyed this sample, but am unlikely to purchase a cake. It’s not super expensive necessarily (but also just above what I’d consider daily drinker level cheap, especially as I’ve started to leaf heavier), and someone has to pay the HK rent prices, alas, but there’s shou below this price point that brings me a similar level of joy or utility or whatever

Free coin that came with a recent order. Not sure what year actually, since the sticker on the coin ripped when I was opening it so I couldn’t read the year on the label. initially tossed the coin into a mug and was intending to grandpa. It was bitter and astringent to the point of being undrinkable, which is sort of my fault given the high ratio (6.7g coin into mug when I usually add like 3g of leaves) and adding boiling water. I shifted it to a thermos and added water to dilute it, so it became drinkable. At any rate, wasn’t really a fan. Tastes more like a black tea (hong cha/红茶), with the malty, floral, honeyed notes in that style. Dry sugared finish. Still astringent, though not as bitter as before. Pretty sure I’ve tried Turtle Dove in the past, and it wasn’t memorable, but this time I actively disliked it.

edit 2: Thermos’d as well today, but it was lightly nutty and smoky with a hint of sweetness. Really easy drinking, enjoyed it a lot. I’m not sure what to think. I did switch to a Zojirushi thermos instead of my old Polar bottle one (back when they made them, but mine doesn’t really retain heat at all I’ve realized) so better retained heat could’ve helped?

edit: have been thermosing this one and need to add that it sort of tastes like furniture… this was a lot better steeped out. make of that note what you will. probably wouldn’t repurchase lol

2017 樟香春韵 is the Chinese name for this one, or 2017 Camphor scent/flavor Spring Yun (Yun as a concept sort of eludes me, so I won’t try to translate it)

Bought from LP. Broke it up and stored in mylar a couple days ago to force myself to bring shou into the daily rotation, as a way of being nicer to my stomach and wallet. Started charting my tea consumption lately along w/ costs, and it’s a little scary how fast cost adds up (without this, cost is easier to ignore post-checkout).

20s rinse with boiling, 8g, mug after rinse. Apparently it’s a common thing in Asia to do longer rinses (20s-30s, twice) with shou, especially trad stored (though this isn’t), and I guess this did make a difference. Upfront is a woody medicinal and bitter taste, which I guess is camphor or whatever, but I really still have no idea what camphor is. Later steeps sweeten out a bit, and there’s a nice clean finish.

It could also be the 3-4 years it has had to air out a bit, but it definitely tastes less like dirt than some other shou. I didn’t take notes, and I was thinking earlier in the day something like “boy this is not too memorable, not sure I could distinguish this from a sea of shou” but then again, at 19c/g, it’s a little unreasonable to demand stand out and memorability. it’s alright, quite drinkable, which I can’t really say of every shou I’ve tried. Once my ‘03 phoenix tuo from Yee-on has rested a bit, we’ll see how that compares, since at 16c/g for that, it’s similar in price. Wish I’d grabbed an ‘06 phoenix tuo which was half the price/g, since I can’t imagine the ‘03 phoenix can be twice as good considering they’re both ripes with the same recipe. anyway, lack of foresight… awaiting Yee on black friday sale, and we’ll see what happens then.

Purchased from LiquidProustTeas.

3.1g in a mug, 212f, grandpa steeps. Similar to most aged oolongs, longevity is not fantastic vs. aged sheng and so it doesn’t steep out for too long, but what it does offer is positively lovely. In a perfect world, I could afford to drink this for a lifetime (and Wistaria would stock it for a lifetime lol).

Unlike the other aged oolongs I’ve had in the past few week, dry leaf isn’t chocolately or as dark, but rather a dried fruity and notably sweeter

Not quite as bitter as the others either, though the woody medicinal is still present. This one had warmer caramel tones, and brighter sugary notes than the others in both aftertaste and taste, and then moves into the plumminess of aged oolongs.

Not much of a warming effect, but a strong uplifting effect, and slight focusing effect. Based on price, 1.81x better than the 1990 Wuyi Shuixian from Wistaria? To me, absolutely.