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Brita filtered tap both.

SR directions were to 200-205f for 2-4 min. No tea:water ratio was given though, so I just did 1.3g to 120 mL, 200f. Taste was, broadly, slightly smoky honeyed hongcha profile, though slightly lighter. Steeps of 2 min., 3 min., and 4 min. before I got bored. Aftertaste is sweet and sugary, with slight floral aspect, not really grainy per description though.
4 min: died down into something like a light shou-mei and reminiscent of chrysanthemum tisane. I didn’t really get the nuttiness and creaminess in the description either. Left tongue slightly dry on 3 min. steep.

Did a different steep too, with 2g:50mL with 180f.
10s: light green tea-like taste, very soft with slight malty floral, sweet aftertaste. 15s: more of a malty taste, though still decidedly soft. some raisin in taste. Crisply sweet aftertaste, same with slightly tongue drying as in the more lazy brew style before.
20s, 25s, 30s: pretty similar. light floral and honeyed malt taste. Not much in the way of change. Shorter steep times and lower temp. seems to bring out a lighter green tea-like profile. Could’ve continued but was bored and tossed in with the other leaves into thermos. Thermos brew yielded a nice brew reminding me of coffee in some ways. I guess I do understand the nutty and creamy note here, though there is a slightly sharp, but quick disappearing bitterness present that is enough that I’d recommend initially brewing with a lighter hand and watching temps. here.

It seems like Korean Hwang-cha is one of those difficult to pin down teas, and though called yellow tea, very different from Chinese yellow teas. Dry leaf definitely smells like a hongcha, with its alternating notes of raisin, chocolate, slight roast, and floral. The wet leaf shows a slight roast presence, and the raisin-like note along with the usual malty hongcha-reminiscent base.

I have a pretty strong aversion to hongcha generally, but I will say that of this being the second Korean hwang-cha I’ve tried, these are somewhat more palatable to me though I wouldn’t repurchase once I finish my packet. Not terrible for the price. I don’t purchase much hongcha (the description really suckered me for this one, alas), so I have no idea what’s good value or not. I’d guess it might be on the more expensive end for them at about $0.43/g, but Korean teas seem more expensive than Chinese in general.

Have been drinking the remnants of my pack thermos’d (sticking to Zojirushi for heat retention), no scale, boiling, Aquafina water (which yes, isn’t optimal, but neither was the tap at home and the Brita at home grew some really odd looking mold after I left). The pack has been stored in the translucent pack it came in inside a Ziploc, so it’s not optimal, but I don’t have extra Mylar at home.

Aroma is a light chocolate and berries and florals (not quite osmanthus to me, but again, hasn’t been stored optimally), and the usual slight malty hongcha. Sometimes it has brown sugar and something near cinnamon. Taste has a hint of the roast of oolongs and then a chocolatey and nutty taste. Richer in taste than the usual hongcha, though was quite thin in terms of mouthfeel (probably a water thing is my guess; Aquafina is RO, and I’ve definitely read elsewhere abt Aquafina in general being ill-suited for tea) with the slightest touch of bitterness. Sometimes a soured honeyed toasted taste with medicinal notes. Aside from the thinness that I’m guessing is from the Aquafina, an issue can be the slight drying feeling that was also in the past note I wrote for this.

A broadly interesting tea, though I’ve got to try some more hongcha produced from oolong varietals to see if this is characteristic of the category. At this point in my exploration of teas, I have a better grasp of what people term qi. I don’t remember enough about this tea from the last time I had it, and my notes from a year back are still back when I didn’t understand what it was referring to, in the least. Anyway, I did not find it here, so if you’re considering this for the “almost dissociative” cha qi as referenced in the descriptor, maybe get something else. Aside from that, this is a good hongcha that I will recommend, high praise from someone who dislikes hongcha.

2.5g, boiling, thermos. 7s rinse.

from what I remember, a nice clean young sheng taste and sweet apricot-tinged aftertaste, though aftertaste did not linger anywhere to the degree that LP’s peach village maocha did. Died pretty gracefully, if somewhat suddenly, after a couple mugs. Definitely worth it for the price, which was $0.13/g for me after factoring in shipping and currency conversion costs.

I was disappointed to find that my stomach cannot seem to handle young huang pian either. A pity. I know HP is puer, but the way some people talk about it makes it seem gentler and lighter, at very minimum, without going into the criticisms “old-school” puer drinkers have against it. I’ll have to explore kombucha one of these days so I can run through my remaining young sheng samples.

Edit: I burned a partial stick of Shoyeido’s Nan-kun today which wasn’t notable, mainly because I can’t seem to distinguish any of these sticks apart, but I also peeled an orange. After a while, I came back to my room and it smelled almost exactly like this tea did: a medicinal, caramel-tinted, orange. Not sure what happened, but was surprised, to say the least.

2.4g, boiling, thermos.

bought a sample from LiquidProust.

smells like a mix of the caramel of aged oolong, but also TCM medicinal note from the orange. Kind of unsettling. Taste is almost medicinal, but also warm and sweetened, which I suspect is a combination of the aged oolong and aged orange peel. Not bitter at all. Slightly warming. When I took the tea out of the thermos, I noticed the chunks never broke up and I’m not sure what to do about that. The leaves seem to be crushed together before pressing, from what I can tell.

Not sure if I want at minimum 220g of this so will probably pass for now. Not bad, but very much elicits the “drink when you’re sick” feeling for me from childhood memories.

Lotus Peak Rou Gui
Tong Xin She Teahouse
6.2g, 100 mL duanni, boiling, Poland Spring water
Dry leaf is a sweet roasted smell, also something nutty and sweetly bread-like underneath
In prewarmed pot, roasted note is clearer
wet leaf smell is mostly roast, but with a slight underlying sweetness. Roast in this one seems lighter than in the Lotus Peak Shui Xian from TXS
Didn’t rinse today
~15s: roasted taste, with slight bitter and sourness, then vegetal/crushed minty note in aftertaste. Smell of soup is sweet in a floral/somewhat sweet potato note way, but roast smell present as well. Empty cup is usual roasted oolong smell of dried graham cracker-like notes
10s: soup is more sweet potato like smell. Roasted taste, sweeter upfront, but sour bitter note is still present. Similar aftertaste, gaining a slight sweet potato-like quality at the end. Somewhat more rounded in the mouth than the LPSX, but didn’t achieve the same power of that aftertaste or extend into throat, concentrating in front of mouth.
15s: soup retains same floral sweet potato note. Taste is somewhat lightened from before. Crush mint aftertaste with slight sweetness is stronger than before, but still concentrated on front tongue. Will do a longer steep, then thermos the rest.
1 min.: just a sort of roasted taste with the slight bitter edge, only slight aftertaste, a bit drying. Thermos’d the rest.
Overall: Somewhat warming. Historically I’ve tended to prefer Rou Gui over Shui Xians that I’ve tried, so surprised that didn’t hold true here since everything should be constant (brewing variables-wise and growing area, etc.) between these two LPSX and LPRG other than the strain. This wasn’t terrible, by any means, but I was disappointed in it as compared to the LPSX so I wasn’t interested in pushing it for more steeps.

2.1g, thermos, boiling: a sweet roasted taste, slight florals with the osmanthus-like, sweet potato-y note, with a hint of the bitterness and mint underneath. A lightly sweet, crushed mint aftertaste. Whereas the LPSX was better pincha, this one is better grandpa. Seem like flipped versions of each other for better pincha or better grandpa.

Probably wouldn’t repurchase this one either

Lotus Peak Shui Xian
Tong Xin She Teahouse
6.2g, 100 mL duanni, boiling, Poland Spring water
Dry leaf I can really only pick out the sweet roast smell
In prewarmed pot, smell is more of the same, with a touch of a sweet floral note
Nothing distinctive about wet leaf smell Didn’t rinse today
15s: initially bitter taste, slightly sour, underneath which is a sort of soapy floral. Aftertaste is sweet and refreshing, lingering with a hint of mint/vegetal note on the tongue. Empty cup aroma, as usual with roasted oolongs, is one of my favorite things here, carrying the standard sweet roasted graham cracker like note.
10s: aroma cup is a touch sweeter than before. Taste is slightly less bitter, same soapy floral undercurrent and same mint/ vegetal note on aftertaste. Aftertaste not as immediately sweet and has shifted focus to mint/vegetal note. This time mint/ vegetal and slight aroma both on front of tongue and lingers in throat. The aroma and taste in throat shifts from vegetal to a softer sweet floral, and then seems to return to a vegetal mint with the soapy floral undercurrent.
30s: more bitter in the taste, similar soapy florals, but also a slight hint of sweetness.
Didn’t time later steeps, but lasted several minutes each:
1st: lighter bitterness. Taste weakening. More forward sweetness and soapiness. Aftertaste slightly bitter, a bit drying minty/vegetal on tongue and slight sweetness.
2nd: not very notable. Bitterness very lightened and leftover floral soapiness is dominating. Bit drying, with slight mint/ vegetal edge.
3rd: flat taste but some of the mint edged aftertaste
Overall: Adjusted brewing today since I was curious how the way some of the Teaforum people brew affect things, and this turned out really well. There’s a good chance I’ll continue using this method for oolongs.

2.1g, thermos, boiling: pretty disappointing. mostly taste of roast, only slight hints of anything that came from pin cha

mixed thoughts, probably wouldn’t repurchase at present.

Hui Yuan Pit Rou Gui (慧苑坑肉桂), whole packet into 100 mL rongtian pot, all steeps at boiling, Poland Spring water. No timer but steeps starting at 5s and similar and increasing time slightly with each steep with later longer steeps. Had a friend over, so no specific notes, just from memory. Starts off pretty simple, and progresses to gain a floral character with the slight crushed mint vegetal aftertaste, and then also picks up a strong sweet potato note. This was lighter on the roasted taste (though it shows up sometimes) than the other oolongs I’ve tried from TXS so far, even though it had 29 hours of baking per the description. Overall, a pretty enjoyable session, though I need to try more oolongs that I know the price of (since most I have were gifted and seem inflated in pricing) so I know if this was worth for the price. Aftertaste was sweet, but not as strong or lasting as I expected, even against cheaper options (though the steeping method I used for the Shui Xian from TXS last time was different). I imagine Hui Yuan Keng teas probably have gradations based on pricing though.

edit: on further reflection, the mold may have just been tea dust. Oh well. Doesn’t hurt to be safe.

Thanks Kar for the sample!

I drank part of the sample some time ago grandpa’d in a mug and I don’t remember much other than that it was okay. I’m pretty sure I didn’t rinse, and it looked fine. Tasted like aged sheng mushroominess, nothing special.

I’ve kept the rest of the sample with a Boveda pack in a Mylar with some other to-drink-soon samples and so you can imagine my horror upon taking the rest of it out to brew and seeing small yellow mold spores. Did I do the smart thing and toss it? No, I just gave it two 20s rinses instead of one and hoped for the best.

I didn’t take notes for it, but it was a bit over 8g in a 90mL gaiwan, steeped like I usually do. Smell had sour, leather, and mushroom-y aged sheng notes. Broadly, tastes were pretty strongly bitter (not LME level, but still bitter) and mushroom-y, sometimes sour and lingered for a while in mouth and sometimes throat, which I know is a good marker of quality, but in terms of personal preference for what constitutes pleasantness/enjoyment is a different story. Sometimes cooling on tongue. Some shifting woody herbaceous notes along with hints of dark fruitiness and smoke. I didn’t particularly like this and would not purchase a cake, but it was interesting to try.

Lightest Roast Hojicha
purchased from Liquid Proust
5g, 230 mL kyusu, Brita filtered tap

Never tried hojicha before, but this piqued my curiosity. I had no idea how to brew this, so I googled, and then messed it all up anyway, so here’s what I did do.
1st steep: 158f, 1 min. 30s
2nd steep: 196f, 30s
3rd steep: 212f, 45s
4th steep: 212f, did not time

Dry leaf smells very nutty, slightly sweet and grassy

Wet leaf has no distinctive smell whatsoever. The kyusu has been sitting in my drawer so I’m not sure if that’s it. Boy, the lightest roast was no joke. I expected a brown
colored liquid and it’s a clear yellow like chrysanthemum tea

1st steep: tiny hint of bitterness, slight nuttiness and sweetness. Tastes like green tea, but slight grassy/minty and nutty aftertaste. Not nutty in a chestnut way, but like walnuts or something. It’s very familiar but it’s also very late here (needed a late night caffeine pick me up) and I can’t think straight. Slightly dried tongue after.

2nd steep: stronger bitter taste upfront, but stronger slightly sweet, quite nutty aftertaste.

3rd steep: just a light bitter taste, almost like smoke but not quite.

4th: really bitter burnt bad matcha like taste from my early forays into matcha

Overall: a green tea masquerading as hojicha is my impression. I have no idea what hojicha’s like but it seemed from online sources that it’s darker and closer to coffee in ways. I didn’t enjoy this one too much and would not repurchase

Thanks to R2 for the sample!

2017 Xiaguan Jingmai “Gushu” shou

7.0g, 90 mL gaiwan, Brita filtered tap, boiling

Dry leaf is pretty standard shou smell, slightly sweet and slight fishiness

18s rinse

Wet leaf is smoky sweet fishiness initially and later more of a woody honeyed smell

9s: nice mouthfeel. A woody medicinal slight bitter sweetness. Slight cooling on tongue after.

12s: similarly nice mouthfeel. Tastes more medicinal than before, but also the slight sweetness is stronger in this cup. Same cooling on tongue, but lingering more than before.

12s: similar, but less sweet and less cooling afterwards.

12s: a muted woody taste with a light bready-sweetness

12s: generic woody shou taste. Shook up the gaiwan to break up the chunks that were stick stuck together, which I later regret doing. The tiny particles that usually filter in the strainer must’ve broken down too much because they ended up repeatedly clogging the strainer after, and I had to wait for the tea to drip through every steep at an aggravating pace despite clearing it out each time.

12s: A medicinal slight sweetness though not much else of note

20s: forgot to take notes, but not memorable

1 min. 20s: light sweetness amidst generic shou background.

Will thermos the rest since it’s not interesting enough to me to continue from here

Overall: I can see why LP mentions a floral likeness, though I would not have described it that way myself. At .24/g, I’m not expecting anything earth shattering, and this tea, specifically in its initial steeps, punches above its weight considering price. It was nice to try this since I’ve been tempted to blind cake this before and I’m glad I didn’t since I prefer sweeter shous.